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August 09, 2006

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Mark C. Foley

May I use this post for my Econ 101 class? Great economic analysis example.

Mike Huben

Stossel takes a very common position for a libertarian: corporate shill. Just like CATO.

If libertarians took their own ideas seriously, they would advocate deregulation of the tort system instead of "state competition". Not to mention deregulation (and loss of state protections) of corporate charters.

Theer are good economic reasons for the FDA's proactive regulation versus the tort system's post hoc fines. A product such as a fire retardent is easy to test objectively to see if it works: very low information costs. A medicine has very high information costs to see if it works, requiring large scale double blind tests. A product such as a fire retardent requires some means of getting into a body to harm it, which may or may not be likely. A medicine is placed directly in a body, and thus has every opportunity to harm it.

And of course, Miron overlooks the fact that there are competing NATIONAL FDA's. We can test how effective they are at approving useful medicines by looking at international movement for approved treatments: and there's very little. I'd bet that the vast majority of international movement is for unapproved treatments that are patently fraudulent.

Lloyd Willis

Mr. Huben: Do you mean to say that there are libertarians who do not advocate doing away with corporations and all those other "limited liability" schemes?

How would one go about "deregulating" the tort system? That's a proposal I've not had the pleasure of reading about.

Mike Huben

Lloyd: Of course there are libertarians who do not advocate doing away with corporations. Why don't you try to find a CATO article taking that position? I suspect that Boaz also doesn't take that position, but I haven't checked. Why don't you make a list of famous libertarians who advocate doing away with corporations: beyond Rothbard, it might be difficult to name too many.

The tort system is clearly regulated by statute law. Statute laws declare some things liable, and others not. They place limits on some awards. Etc.

Christopher

Very nice blog, glad I stumbled onto it!

James

"If libertarians took their own ideas seriously, they would advocate deregulation of the tort system instead of "state competition". Not to mention deregulation (and loss of state protections) of corporate charters."

Which libertarian ideas do you think liberatrians are failing to take seriously? I can see a cost/benefit argument for corporations and for the existing tort system. I wouldn't agree with it so much, but I wouldn't accuse libertarians who make such a case as being inconsistent with their professed ideals.

However, *every* anarchist libertarian favors elinimating the state, so that naturally means they favor eliminating state grants of priviledge. These are not rare positions among libertarians.

Mike Huben

As I said before, Stossel takes a very common position for a libertarian: corporate shill. Just like CATO.

He doesn't seem to take those ideas seriously. Neither do a great many other libertarians.

Do you have any idea what percentage of supposed libertarians are anarchist?

James

Mike,

This may strike you as odd, but I've never in my life seen Stossel. However, I wouldn't call him a corporate shill for the same reason I wouldn't call you a government shill: such attacks on motive are superfluous and uninformative. If Stossel makes any false claims about the world, you could just show that they are false. I'm aware that this is more difficult than calling someone a shill and may be unsuitable if your purpose is something other than to make a convincing argument.

I have no idea what percentage of supposed libertarians are anarchists. Should this matter to me?

"everyone benefits when companies consider the potential risks and liability from any products they produce"

Everyone does not benefit from forced, mandatory safety levels. A product's safely characteristics should be thought of as one of its features.

Some consumers may not want the extra expense, the reduced functionally, or the delays necessary to meet arbitrarily set gov't safety standards.

Mike Huben

"forced, mandatory safety levels", and "arbitrarily set gov't safety standards". Wow. So how is it that thalidomide is back on the shelves?

Go ahead: please show me that consumers are more sensible about these things than the FDA. (When it is not being pushed around by Bush, as in the Plan B pill.)

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